

Crime Seen | Episode 89: Society of the Snow | Nothing But Netflix Crossover
Crime Seen is the true crime review podcast that gets to the heart of how true crime stories are told. Join Mari Forth (@MariTalks2Much) and Sarah Carradine (@sarahcarradine) as they put true crime properties under the magnifying glass. In this special cross-over episode with the Nothing But Netflix podcast @NothingButRHAP they examine the feature film SOCIETY OF THE SNOW with Rob Cesternino @robcesternino & Chappell @Chappells_Show. Watch it on Netflix.
SOCIETY OF THE SNOW is based on the true story of the crash of Uruguayan Air Force Flight 5711, and the 71 days survivors spent stranded in the Andes. How many magnifying glasses out of 5 will they rate SOCIETY OF THE SNOW? Listen to find out.
Recommendations:
documentary: MAN ON THE RUN (Cassius Michael Kim, 2023) on Netflix
tv series: FISK (Kitty Flanagan, 2021- ) on Netflix
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[00:03:01] at Sarah Carradine and to Mari at Mari Talks Too Much. That's to like the top movies on Netflix currently, a society of the snow. And now let's bring in the guy who says he's starving. He's just worked up an appetite watching this film. Chappelle. Hey, Rob. Rob, would you eat me?
[00:04:21] Did you want me to?
[00:04:22] I think that a lot of the people in the film, they gave their consent.
[00:04:28] I have opinions about that. Maybe. All right. We're here to talk about Society of the Snow. It's a special crossover episode with the hosts of The Crime Scene. Half of here on a special crossover episode. Please welcome Mari and Sarah, the hosts of Crime Scene. It's a party now.
[00:05:40] Yes.
[00:05:42] Oh, I'm so cold.
[00:06:42] Not to mention the fruitcake episode of fruitcake fraud.
[00:06:46] I do do fruitcake fraud. Yeah, we did. Nothing changed my life.
[00:06:47] Oh, yeah.
[00:06:49] Cuddy Heart wasn't eating much there.
[00:06:51] He was.
[00:06:52] Yes, he was getting his energy from other sources.
[00:06:55] Yeah.
[00:06:56] But let me just set up a Society of the Snow, which we're about to talk about
[00:06:59] in case sometimes people just jump into the podcast and don't necessarily
[00:08:01] Mm hmm. Don't ask. That's a trick question, Sarah.
[00:08:02] Don't ask me that.
[00:08:03] OK. All right.
[00:08:04] So I have thoughts.
[00:08:06] Yeah, I guess.
[00:08:07] And that's all.
[00:08:08] So I mean, this was a very like, well,
[00:08:13] I was going to say well done, but that's probably
[00:08:15] a whole point.
[00:08:16] I wasn't like, oh, my God.
[00:08:20] Oh, my God.
[00:08:22] Raw. I'm sure.
[00:08:24] I'm sure that I'm traumatized
[00:08:27] just watching this movie. spoon feed you some stuff. There was some stuff that was left out. And there's things that are implied that if you don't know the background, you wouldn't pick up on. But they pretty much followed the events of that, of those harrowing 70 days to a tee. And we know everything that happens because we had so many survivors and because multiple of the
[00:09:41] survivors had memoirs and books, and a lot of them went on to be like really successful
[00:09:46] people within their communities. It is now. Now I've like, I've thought I've done all the mental gymnastics around that one. I'm good. Can I consider no consent? I'm eating. Can I give my thoughts on this that I feel like that, you know, in my mind, I've done this same question and calculus, but I feel like in my head, I feel like that it was always cooked and this is like, like person sashimi, which I think is totally different.
[00:11:04] Jerky. It's actually jerky No, no, no, no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I feel like it's fair to have to think about that because you know, you don't ever like what real life situation where you think, am I going to eat someone?
[00:12:22] I used to watch The Walking Dead and they would come up every now and then, you know,
[00:12:25] but that's on a zombie apocalypse.
[00:12:27] It only came up every now and then. their friends were passing away and you know some gave consent some couldn't but it really is a very harrowing story that honestly I would have tapped out. Yeah I don't want to be alive that bad. Yeah but we do see them trying to eat lichen nothing there trying to eat shoelaces I mean they
[00:13:43] are yeah they're doing it all.
[00:13:45] Yeah it's like it's the desperation.
[00:14:43] plane crash and you see people getting ripped from their seats, thrown out of the belt. And then it's even once the plane crashes, still seeing people like being dismantled
[00:14:49] by the force of that plane hitting the ice, the snow rushing in the wind, all that stuff.
[00:14:55] And then just silence.
[00:14:56] I was like, Oh, they did the thing with this.
[00:14:58] Too many people made it on Lost.
[00:15:00] You know, I feel like that that was they didn't really base it.
[00:15:05] In fact, yeah, they, um trailer that made me be like, oh my God, we have to cover this. And what made me send it and send it to Chappelle. The limbs that got twisted and oh my God. Oh, it was horrible. If you were watching it with subtitles, it had bones breaking. I thought, yeah, you know, I can see them.
[00:16:22] Yeah, sadly.
[00:16:24] And then even something else I never think about No, it was like, what the hell is this? The day that they hear on the radio that the search has been called off. Oh my God. We are actually inside the plane with other people and we hear the screams and cries from outside. It was so visceral. And so we really understood.
[00:17:42] And so those have been holdouts on the eating now know that nobody's coming.
[00:18:44] They heard that radio that they, you know, all of the small things that led up to before they got, they got rescued.
[00:18:46] But I completely agree with Sarah, them naming the names of like the people who died in the
[00:18:52] crash as they recovered their bodies.
[00:18:55] When they found the tail of the plane, the five people who got, who got sucked out as
[00:19:00] people slowly started to pass away, it really felt like they were giving the victims like
[00:19:05] their names back and they're just due.
[00:19:07] And it didn't feel exploited. like, like I died on and I like had to go back and like, well, did I hear that right? So. Yeah. It just says like, so it was so horrible for everybody. Yeah, the Numa thing was it was done so in such an interesting way,
[00:20:22] I guess I'd say, because he dies in December.
[00:20:25] They crashed in October. the search is called off. That's the memoir I want to read. You know what I'm saying? Cause it's like, anybody can put you in the moment of it. Yeah. We found the radio and we were listening and then it was so sad cause we found out they weren't looking for us, but to experience everybody else's reaction first and be like, what is that? What's going on? Only for it to telephone in there to you. Oh, and they gave up on us and you've been in there trying not to eat anybody.
[00:21:41] You're just trying to stay warm.
[00:21:43] And now you're like all the little hope that you had is just going like that.
[00:22:43] And even I was like, this can't be right. They're not gonna go.
[00:22:44] You know this going yet, Mari?
[00:22:45] They are.
[00:22:46] Yeah, I knew it going in.
[00:22:47] I knew the names of all the main players
[00:22:50] because it was so fresh on my mind
[00:22:52] after listening to the last podcast on the left.
[00:22:54] So I knew Nando and Roberto were the ones
[00:22:57] who would go in and save them.
[00:22:59] I knew that Numa and his friend,
[00:23:02] the one that convinced him to go with him,
[00:23:05] I knew that one of them snow, just, I mean, the moment where they're just hanging out in the airplane. Finally having like a nice day. Finally, yeah. You know what, this isn't so bad. Laughing, laughing. Like again, just like the blink of an eye,
[00:24:20] it all changes and they're stuck.
[00:24:22] And I mean, we watch Coco just like,
[00:24:25] I mean, they said Coco was under there
[00:24:27] and just, they'd never get them unburied. We see their faces seeing another person for the first time in 71 days. But before that they're buried alive. They're buried alive for four days, I believe it is. Four or five days because of that avalanche, that avalanche coming in. Roy, one of the survivors, he, he, he stands up at a point where the avalanche comes and him standing up is
[00:25:42] actually what helps because he was able to then start pulling people out like
[00:25:46] we see in the movie and then more people start pulling people out. Like, again, I do not want to survive any of this because they were buried in that fuselage with, I want to say it was at least seven or eight dead bodies. It was 19 of them. I think that survived the avalanche or something to that effect. And they had to stay in that and even smaller space buried under the mountain waiting for
[00:27:01] the snowstorm to end before they could climb out through how many feet of snow we don't
[00:27:07] even know. And he talks about turning back to her body and feeling an enormous and unmatched wave of love. And when he tells the story, you think it would be a horrifying story, a sad story, but he turned that the way it turns emotionally is extraordinary. And I thought the whole film did that.
[00:28:20] Like whenever you expect them to do one thing, they do another.
[00:28:23] And then you realize how human it is.
[00:28:26] It's not a movie response.
[00:28:28] It's a human response. they survive because like thinking yeah, I'm gonna This mountain Is one of those thoughts that again clearly none of us have Yes, yeah, what is the word in Spanish? Ganas? You know, it's like that. They just great is really what it is
[00:29:48] Was that too but you know, but you know just it's just the Thursday, I'll have an exit interview and Survivor Know-It-All's with Steven Fishback. Plus everything we have coming up for you in our Survivor podcast feed.
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[00:31:07] Plus we'll be checking out Boston Rob's Select Quote dot com. Select Quote dot com. That's Select Quote dot com. Select Quote. We shop. You save full details on example policies at Select Quote dot com slash commercials. Mari, do you know in terms of this film that this is the Netflix premiere just in the last couple of days, but was this in theaters?
[00:32:22] Yeah, I believe internationally.
[00:32:24] I don't think I don't think it was in opposite. They had been through so much. They had been through the plane crash and they're eating people. I'm like, Oh my, how is there still an hour and a half left of this movie? Stay in the movie theater the whole time. I would have had to leave because how much more snow can you show?
[00:33:41] Listen, I'm not complaining about the length. I just, ideally, I, I, okay.
[00:34:46] in here. It was very, it was very well produced, but very well. And I feel like I was there. It was. Yeah. I felt like I was there too. And that
[00:34:52] was a problem for sure. No, I completely agree with you, Sarah. I, I, I actually was scared
[00:34:57] when I pressed that I was like, Oh my God, not two and a half hours, but it really did fly,
[00:35:01] fly for me. I yeah. Cause I guess knowing the events, I was like, a fact that the place where the plane crash is now like a site that people can, they can, of course they turn into like tourism. You can take a pass up there. This is like going to the, I see the Titanic on the submersible. Yeah. Stay away. Right. Stay away.
[00:36:20] Without the squish.
[00:36:21] How bored are people?
[00:36:23] And the survivors did go back to the past.
[00:36:26] Yeah, the survivors have gone back.
[00:36:28] Yeah. Now, I'm not superstitious, but this plane took off Friday the 13th. Yeah. Yeah. It's something that they don't mention in the movie. They took off from a Mati, Mati video. I can't say it. You just, you just did.
[00:37:41] And in Uruguay, Uruguay, but they did it incorrectly. So you notice the scene where they go to the pilot and they're like, how do you how do you work the radio once it like it first crashes? The pilot says we pass Corsica or we pass a curse, curse a curacao. We pass curacao. That town is is the marker from when you then also you have to remember what, what time this was, right? So like the plane starts crashing. And if this happens today, you get, you know, the flight attendants have already given you the rundown, you get the like, you know, the things are falling from the air, you have to put your little mask on. And if that bag doesn't inflate, it still get an accident. None of that happened. And I was
[00:40:21] looking around like, why is it not happening? And I I think about it, it was so good. Was this a charter flight, or did they just happen to have all the seats on a commercial flight? Well, there was an air force.
[00:41:40] It was an air force plane.
[00:41:41] Yeah.
[00:41:41] Chartered.
[00:41:42] It was chartered for the group.
[00:41:44] A decommissioned Air Force plane.
[00:41:46] Yeah.
[00:41:47] Sarah's right.
[00:41:47] But it was just all them. They got ready to be rescued. They combed their hair. They washed their faces. That was extraordinary. They took photos. They were like, OK, well, you know, this is our big moment. And I guess you do know the magnitude of the situation at that point. No, this is a momentous occasion.
[00:43:00] But I would have never thought, like, let me put that shit on.
[00:43:04] I wouldn't even to get dressed up.
[00:44:20] I definitely wouldn't want people to show up and see such carnage because I mean,
[00:44:25] just my, my mental image is that what are people going to think about us? Yes, because you can't just come out with it. Exactly. But you can't just say that, right? You know, it's incredible. Yeah. And it was from what they said. It was like a debate like after they got rescued for a few months. It was the whole would you, would you was that immoral? Is that there was a great debate about that and how far you would go to survive.
[00:45:43] I also like them reading off the names of the survivors, like
[00:46:43] was the one who compiled whatever information from the other ones.
[00:46:48] But yeah, I think and then, you know, it's a very topical reference as well, because, you know, there are other shows right now that are dealing with topics
[00:46:51] of like, would you eat someone something similar to like Yellow Jackets?
[00:46:55] Right. I heard that the season two of Yellow Jackets was not that great.
[00:46:58] But season one, apparently was like it was good for what I thought.
[00:47:02] As good as the session.
[00:47:03] Not not as good as session. Absolutely not.
[00:47:05] And according to the Golden Globes, not as good as many other shows.
[00:48:02] you know that what they say is true, that they ate people who consented to be eaten.
[00:48:06] And that it was a beautiful moment,
[00:48:08] you know, a beautiful gesture rather.
[00:48:11] And in fact, Numa writes a note saying,
[00:48:14] this is the most love I can give you is my body.
[00:48:19] Yeah, and they specifically didn't eat
[00:48:22] Nando's mother and sister for him.
[00:48:25] He was, while he was because the water was like so loud. That's why they had to throw the notes and stuff back and forth. And they said Nando and Roberto were so weak, they almost couldn't get, they almost couldn't throw the rock back to them. So. And they would have looked like hell as well. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:49:41] And yeah, they didn't really describe how they got them back across the river.
[00:50:41] What if another avalanche happens, right? There's still 45 minutes left in this film.
[00:50:43] What if something else happens?
[00:50:45] And then when they find the man, they go get the food
[00:50:48] and it takes them about a day
[00:50:49] before they even start making their way back.
[00:50:51] I would, I don't even know if I'd be able to sleep
[00:50:54] knowing that I'm eating right now.
[00:50:55] And I'm like, y'all, but we really gotta get back.
[00:50:57] You know, like I understand this, it takes some time.
[00:50:59] But like these people are eating each other right now.
[00:51:01] We have to get back.
[00:51:02] Cause you could get back and there could be nothing there.
[00:51:04] You know, you just don't know. like the doctors are helping them and they go through like, just like the, like, yeah, trying to like get these people clean, oh my God. Just having a shower, I mean, oh. They're so weak and so skinny. I wonder how they shot that with those actors.
[00:52:21] I was really wondering how,
[00:52:22] like I don't think they made those actors lose that much
[00:52:25] weight and look like, they really looked like they lost site where they buried the people who had died and they were given all the rights that the Catholic Church can bestow upon them. But the father of one of the dead boys had bribed the priest to mark his son's body bag so he would know which body bag was his
[00:53:41] son. And he went back with an illegal group. Amazing. That's so interesting. Oh, so yeah, can we pass out my microphone?
[00:55:02] Yes, please. Yes.
[00:55:04] Sure. OK. All right.
[00:55:05] So we'll start with Rob. Rob, how are we? but I could give it like a four-ish. Yeah. I agree with Chappelle. I would give it a four out of five. It's exceptionally well-made. It is very powerful and I never would want to watch this again. This will stay with me forever. And I look, I podcast about stupid reality shows.
[00:56:25] I'm looking for some more like,
[00:57:24] Oh, I'm sorry. Do you want me to knock down my stars?
[00:57:27] No, yes, five.
[00:57:28] I like bleak. I like dark.
[00:57:29] I like snow. I like cold.
[00:57:31] I like long, you know,
[00:57:33] investigations into the darkness that's inside the human spirit.
[00:57:38] I mean, it's wonderful that at the end where you expect a swelling triumph,
[00:57:43] that it's not triumphant.
[00:57:45] And Numer actually tells us we didn't feel.
[00:58:42] detailed account of what happened.
[00:58:46] So Sarah knows we talked about on crime scene. I'm a I'm a like flight person.
[00:58:47] I have severe travel anxiety.
[00:58:49] So the only way to alleviate that is I learn as much about planes as possible.
[00:58:54] And so seeing how they depicted the plane crash here
[00:58:58] and the survivors journeys and all of that.
[00:59:01] And I don't I don't mind sitting in uncomfortableness.
[00:59:04] Like, I think that's what this is.
[00:59:06] There was, like I said, the. Well, there's a little bit more work here to be done, Mari and Sarah. So one thing that crime scene and nothing but Netflix has in common is that we need recommendations. So tell us, you know, do you have anything else that we should be watching or for nothing but Netflix or anything else you want to recommend for the crime scene? Listeners who might enjoy something similar to this or, you know, just something me and
[01:00:24] Rob might be able to stomach a little bit more stomach. of it, the money going back into Malaysia to make it better. He uses it on parties where he invites Leonardo DiCaprio, Paris Hilton, and that's what Chappelle always do. Not that group, but yeah. It's the same idea. It's very interesting. I will say like, I started watching it and that was the pool.
[01:01:41] The pool was like, Oh my God, he used it to just party with all these celebrities. And
[01:01:44] at first you're like, how does he know the United States of America, not sure about Canada,
[01:03:02] sorry, Canada, have a look on your Netflix or just fly to America.
[01:04:02] FISK on Netflix.
[01:04:05] OK, well, Chappelle,
[01:04:07] you and I get up that
[01:04:13] no comment about the portraits.
[01:04:16] But we are very good. Yeah, very good.
[01:04:19] They're very good. We have a big event coming up here on Nothing But Netflix
[01:04:21] here in January.
[01:04:23] There's a brand new reality show
[01:04:25] coming to Netflix, a reality consumption. Yeah, for people like stuck in like a frosty environment. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So yeah, I'm here. I'm here for this. This is going to work. I'm going to I'm very excited about this. I actually have seen the trailer for this once. And so it has my attention and I think we're going to enjoy it. And so I think we might have to end off this the month of January kind of talking about the trust
[01:05:42] a game of greed.
[01:05:44] Yeah, very excited do that. But we're also on YouTube. That's very helpful for people who might not want to watch wrestling, but want to listen to us talk about it because we make it fun no matter what. We are on the Rob has a podcast YouTube page and we bring up really cool pictures and we just have like a ball. So it's so great to be back with Matt and we are really excited,
[01:07:01] especially starting with the Royal Rumble coverage, because that is the best.
[01:07:05] That is the best time of the year. of January, we're doing like our own little like movie reviews. And then when February comes, we'll be dropping Mr. and Mrs. Smith coverage of, we believe, of elementary coverage, I believe, Chappelle. And so a lot of stuff going on on the Connecting go to post your recap dot com slash connect in order to subscribe to us there. Plus, we're on Posture Recaps YouTube as well.
[01:08:22] That's it for me.
[01:08:24] Sarah, well to come up. Yes.
[01:09:27] Herder, keeping up the freezing cold content with Jess and Grace and Latonya over there. You can cover me.
[01:09:29] You can also follow me on Twitter at Sarah Carradine.
[01:09:33] Okay.
[01:09:34] That's me.
[01:09:35] Great job, Sarah and Mari.
[01:09:36] Very fun to cross over with you both here today.
[01:09:39] Yes, thank you for having us.
[01:09:41] Thank you for having us.
[01:09:42] And Chappelle, I know you and I are musical that is now currently a major motion picture in films. I'm in theaters right now. So we'll be doing that. And then of course, Rob, I will be wherever else you want me to be here on RJP. So follow me on Twitter at your post. I'm squished out to keep up with that and more. All right. Make sure you're dialed in for our coverage of the trust coming up later on this week.
